Do we want navy?

[Mantaza]

@Mantaza du bist einfach nervend egal in welchen Thread oder Thema

Das finde ich garnicht nett von dir. Warum nervig gibt da bestimmt einiges wo ich genervt habe aber mit navy hab ich doch recht. Die alpha läuft ohne Navy und ich denke nicht das die kurz vorm beta start nochmal rumexperimentieren.
Außerdem wie gesagt das CnC F2P steht für jedes Universum innerhalb von CnC, also wäre es halt in Gens eher seltsam aber in Ra4 vll möglich mit den amphibischen Fahrzeugen z.B. dem tsunami.
Außerdem bin ich net der einzige der hier Offtopic manchma geht :P

 

[AmeRiZe]

Das merkt er aber nicht, darum ist ja manchmal so witzig^^

PS meinte biggiedebäng^^

 

[TyphoonAttackSub]

Warum sollte man ueberhaupt ne Navy haben wollen? Das Schoene an Gen war doch der Semi-Realismus, Schiffe wuerden sowas von total zerstoeren.

Selbst kleinere Schiffe haben mehrere hundert Mann Besatzung, wie soll man das im Vergleich zu nem Flugzeug oder Panzer mit 2 bis 5 Leuten Besatzung glaubhaft ins Verhaeltnis setzten?
Ganz abgesehen davon ist Seekampf realativ unspannend, sowas wie Deckung oder verschiedene Terrainarten wird ja kaum geben und optisch ist da auch nicht alzuviel geboten.
=> Klares NEIN zu Schiffen




Gegen Amphibienfahrzeuge und Infanterie die mit Schlauchbooten unterwegs ist haette ich jedoch nichts einzuwenden.

-Because naval is unique to Command & Conquer.
-It worked well in Red Alert 3.
-Navy is a realistic part of war.

The CNCsaga writer went to the summit so he was told by Victory Games that Navy is definitely on there radar (pun intended) it's just whether they go through with it or not.


Is a Blonde girl in the GLA realism though? Is a microwave tank realism? Napalm firestorms? Black Lotus? Pretty sure Black Lotus wouldn't pass checkpoint one in real life/
I am too am a fan of realism but in terms of CNC there is going to be stuff that is not quite up to realism due to the fact it's agame.

Maybe full naval content would be boring sure, but in a 4v4 if someone went Navy it'd make things fresh and interesting.

 

[daarkside]

an fleuntly running and working 4v4 would be fresh and interesting

 

[Stygs]

-Because naval is unique to Command & Conquer.
-It worked well in Red Alert 3.
-Navy is a realistic part of war.

-No, its not really unique to CnC. A lot of RTS games set in the past have them (Empire:Total War, Age of Empires 2, Empire Earth...)
-It worked well because there was no real navy - there were just tanks that could move on land, tanks that could move on water and tanks that could move on both. Some of them just used ship models. It never came anywhere close to a realistic navy.
So yes, a navy works great if you make it totally unrealistic and simplified. Which is why it does not belong into a Generals game.
-Yes, back in WW2 Navy was quite important.
But in Generals2? As far as I know the game takes place if Europe, Asia or the Middle East. In a szenario like this, airpower would be far more important than ships.
And do you really think the GLA could build a navy that could compete with the USA or the EU? Or China?

The CNCsaga writer went to the summit so he was told by Victory Games that Navy is definitely on there radar (pun intended) it's just whether they go through with it or not.

Yes, thats called "marketing". I dont think they ever denied the Zombie General suggestion because they dont want to lose any potentional buyers. They propably would answer the same when asked for space battles....

 

[AmeRiZe]

And do you really think the GLA could build a navy that could compete with the USA or the EU? Or China?

Wenn man es auf eine Welt bezieht die wir kennen, dann ist das schon realistisch, dass sie Boote und U-Boote haben man denke nur an die Drogen-U-Boote des Drogenkartells von Kolumbien oder die Piraten von Somalia. Natürlich kann man das ein bisschen ausbauen, aber das GLA keine Navy besitzen könnte ist haltlos, wenn man sich nur genug Gedanken darüber machen würde

 

[TyphoonAttackSub]

-Naval combat in RTS games online is unique to CNC! Name me one other RTS whre naval is so population online! Trying to correct me when no correction exists

So yes, a navy works great

You're right

-You dont know anything that's obvious and guessing about where the game might take place or might not take place has no bearing and relevance on this topic, just demonstrates you are clutching at straws to excercise your dogmastic views

- LOL @ German mentioning WW2 and LOL @ at you attempting to say Navy was important in WW2 and not now as some kind of fact, absolute fail. Maybe if you were shipping innocents around

- We dont even know what GLA is so defining what they 'can' and 'cant' do only serves the purpose of demonstrating your inherit racism and lack of understanding of the world. The easiest example going around is North Korea's sizable Navy yet 'poor countries' cant have one according to Hitler.

-No, its not really unique to CnC. A lot of RTS games set in the past have them (Empire:Total War, Age of Empires 2, Empire Earth...)
-It worked well because there was no real navy - there were just tanks that could move on land, tanks that could move on water and tanks that could move on both. Some of them just used ship models. It never came anywhere close to a realistic navy.
So yes, a navy works great if you make it totally unrealistic and simplified. Which is why it does not belong into a Generals game.
-Yes, back in WW2 Navy was quite important.
But in Generals2? As far as I know the game takes place if Europe, Asia or the Middle East. In a szenario like this, airpower would be far more important than ships.
And do you really think the GLA could build a navy that could compete with the USA or the EU? Or China?




Yes, thats called "marketing". I dont think they ever denied the Zombie General suggestion because they dont want to lose any potentional buyers. They propably would answer the same when asked for space battles....

 

[Mantaza]

lasst den einfach labern der redet eh nur vor sich hin und möchte seine Wünsche durchziehn. Alle die versuchen was gegen Navy zusagen sind direkt auf seiner blockliste
Jetzt kommt er auch noch damit das wir als deutsche irgendwie kein Recht haben über WW2 zureden, oder was soll das bedeuten ?
Der denkt das wir noch immer im Jahre 1942 leben...

 

[DrFriedChicken]

-Naval combat in RTS games online is unique to CNC! Name me one other RTS whre naval is so population online! Trying to correct me when no correction exists

The correction was delivered by the same person. And it was even included in your own post as a quote.

P.S.: Yes, everybody knows that all Germans are Nazis and everybody knows all Australians are criminals from Great Britain. Everybody living under a(yers) rock knows that.

 

[ZxGanon]

- LOL @ German mentioning WW2 and LOL @ at you attempting to say Navy was important in WW2 and not now as some kind of fact, absolute fail. Maybe if you were shipping innocents around

reported

 

[Stygs]

You're right

-You dont know anything that's obvious and guessing about where the game might take place or might not take place has no bearing and relevance on this topic, just demonstrates you are clutching at straws to excercise your dogmastic views

- LOL @ German mentioning WW2 and LOL @ at you attempting to say Navy was important in WW2 and not now as some kind of fact, absolute fail. Maybe if you were shipping innocents around

- We dont even know what GLA is so defining what they 'can' and 'cant' do only serves the purpose of demonstrating your inherit racism and lack of understanding of the world. The easiest example going around is North Korea's sizable Navy yet 'poor countries' cant have one according to Hitler.

Yes, clearly I am the one here with dogmatic views and inherit racism

 

[-EagLeEy3]

- LOL @ German mentioning WW2 and LOL @ at you attempting to say Navy was important in WW2 and not now as some kind of fact, absolute fail. Maybe if you were shipping innocents around

 

[freezy]

-Naval combat in RTS games online is unique to CNC! Name me one other RTS whre naval is so population online! Trying to correct me when no correction exists

Supreme Commander. Has pretty realistic Navy with huge and strong Ships Planetary Annihilation will have navy aswell.

For the rest of your post: Please don't insult other forum members with such assumptions.


Und nun back to topic alle. Wenn euch seine Posts stören packt ihn halt auch auf Ignore so wie er euch.

 

[Phill]

Fand Ra3 nicht so toll mitn Wasser , gut das war das einzige was bei Ra3 gut ausgesehen hat aber die Schiffe die so weit feuern und alles killen einfach dumm

Hab sogar gegen PhillRudd verloren ... lächerlich das Spiel >.<

Ich wollt ja nicht in aller Öffentlichkeit noch Salz in die Wunde streun, aber den Schuh musst dir schon selber anziehen:
Du hast nämlich nicht nur "das Wasser vergessen", sondern alles andere auch.
Zum Beispiel hast du vergessen weiter zu exen. Dann hast du zwar einen Prospector gebaut, den hast du aber auch vergessen, - so dass er eine halbe Stunde lang dem arbeitswilligen Prospector im Weg stand und die entsprechende raff während dieser ganzen zeit kein Geld eingebracht hat. Dann hast du vergessen zu techen. Nachdem du getecht hast, hast du vergessen T2-Units zu bauen und statt dessen deine T1-Einheiten gegen meine Panzer verheizt - immer und immer wieder!

Dein Problem an diesem Abend war einfach dass zu viel zu heftig gefeiert hast um zu zocken, - selbst gegen mich...

 

[FJZ84]

Hallo Leute ich find es echt geil im commandandconquer forums auf .com
darf man nur englisch schreiben und hier schreiben alle wie sie wollen ^^
mein erster Betrag wurde gleich geclosed


mein betrag war Hallo Leute hat von euch schon wer die Beta?
bin gespannt wie es wird obwohl meine Hoffnungen bis jetzt in bezug auf C&C entäuscht wurden seit einigen Jahren.

LG
Franz

Achja zum thema navy jo warum nicht freu mich trotz vorurteile auf das neue spiel

 

[AmeRiZe]

Vorurteile? Haha, geilster Spruch seit langem xD

 

[FJZ84]

was mich stört ist da bei den Ölbohrtürmen keine Öltransporter bis zu raffenerie fahren werden leider ein bisschen doof
das mit den bulldosern ist auch net so leiwand.
LG
Franz

wo bleibt das c&c 1 feeling ?

 

[Lunak]

Das kriegst nie wieder

 

[ZxGanon]

Das kriegst nie wieder

Doch einfach C&C1 starten.