RA3 Replay Sammelthread

[MindChamp]

Chicken > freezy is no secret. I did beat Chicken once though, now I feel a hero . Next time I will be online though. Maybe I must also stop the infspam so I can get killed sooner.

 

[freezy]

With the difference that Chicken was next to you and owned YOU, FiX

 

[DrFriedChicken]

With the difference that Chicken was next to you and owned YOU, FiX

Tergiversations! Who was responsible for the destruction of several Apollos, Vindicators and especially one little sneaky cryocopter? It was like as if I was in charge of defending our bases against your ridiculous attempts of backstabing us and our harvesters. Last but not least I effectively harassed FiX until reinforcements arrived.

P.S.: This post exceeds the capabilities of my spell-checking software :P...

 

[Bandito]

Oh man...wer hat sich mein RA3 Rep runter geladen? Das is doch deppert

 

[ScHmiDi]

Nett gespielt

 

[DrFriedChicken]

Match, in dem freezy die ganze Zeit meine Sammler killt und gegen Ende davon ausgeht, er hätte schon gewonnen. Von freezy fehlte auch viel Spezialfähigkeiteneinsatz in dem Match und er hat nicht darauf reagiert, als ich von Double-Airfield schlagartig auf Warfac umgestellt hab.

Nur mal zum APM-Check, wie seine Kurve verläuft...

*Rep gelöscht, APM-Parser spinnt wieder mal...*

 

[freezy]

Führ dich net immer wie ein Lehrer auf, das nervt so einige Leute, wie das Spiel geht wissen wir selbst ^^

 

[DrFriedChicken]

Führ dich net immer wie ein Lehrer auf, das nervt so einige Leute, wie das Spiel geht wissen wir selbst ^^

Ich glaub euch ja, dass ihr das Spiel und dessen Units kennt. Ich mach mehr ne taktische Analyse. Auch wenns nervt, aber um sich zu verbessern muss eben diskutiert werden, welche Punkte einer Strategie gut und welche nicht so gut waren...

 

[ScHmiDi]

Ist doch ok, solangs net auch über TS ist
Übrigens sind mir bei killa auch einige Fehler aufgefallen, die es unbedingt auszumerzen gilt

 

[freezy]

z.B.? ^^

 

[MindChamp]

Chicken you must spotdodge more in Brawl. Chicken your reflexes are too slow. You need to grab more and use advanced techs that are usefull. Chicken you never play Brawl anymore anyway .

Freezy goblins can't win if you can't block spiderlings with men you clearly suck. Freezy one standard bo for men is to get your second production que faster than isengard. Freezy I see you next time in bfme2 you fool.

If Chicken wins more than you maggot then clearly he knows more than you. Of course noone is really the same.

 

[ScHmiDi]

Sein Tango Mirco fand ich net so gut, hat sich einige male abgeballert lassen, anstatt eher anzugreifen, wieso soll man zwei Tangos verloren, wenn man zurückschlagen kann und mindestens auch paar Apollos töten? Vorallem 6 Tangos gegen 2 Apollos und dann Flucht xD

 

[freezy]

Tangos xD. Lass uns tanzen Schmidi

 

[ScHmiDi]

loool, wasn Kram ich geschrieben habe xD
War gestern nicht mehr auf der Höhe und hatte schon paar Sachen innen, aber ich war sicher, dass es Tangos heißt, statt Tengus xD
Ok freezy, lets go

 

[DrFriedChicken]

APM-Check

Edit: Schon wieder undefined ...

 

[freezy]

APM Check is was für looser, APMs sagen nichts, verschwendete Zeit

 

[MindChamp]

APM equals not everything. If I buy one soviet conscript and click on him like mad, it does not make me a pro gamer.

 

[DrFriedChicken]

Durchschnittliche APM und Höchste APM sind in der Tat Schwachsinn. Allerdings geht es mir hier darum zu sehen, in welchen Situationen die APM runter und wann nach oben geht. Wenn man kurz vor dem vermeintlichen Ende nur noch halb so schnell spielt, muss man sich nicht wundern, wenn der Gegner mit einer Überraschung und einer schnellen Umstellung der Strategie das Spiel noch drehen und für sich entscheiden kann. Und das kann man durchaus an der APM erkennen...

 

[MindChamp]

Most likely. But ever wondered when an attack comes people just don't know what to do? You could better tell them how to block certain attacks and you probably know the rest.

 

[DrFriedChicken]

Most likely. But ever wondered when an attack comes people just don't know what to do? You could better tell them how to block certain attacks and you probably know the rest.

The blocking-system in RA3 seems pretty obvious to me. In many cases it seems to be proper scouting: Many players often do not scout properly and don't use the facts that can be observed when doing so. There's also much logic involved.

For example when you see guardian tanks and manage to send a scout to the enemy base and find his warfactory on lvl1 (little blue lights on top of the building) you may extract quite a lot of information from that:

1. His MCV is no longer in the mainbase, because no allies-player is gonna afford a second warfac at an expansion.

2. If your scout took one of the few available routes in and out of the base and didn't spot the MCV on its way, you can predict with high accuracy where the MCV was moving to and where you will find the next expansion.

3. The opponent won't not able to build any more Guardians until the MCV returns.

4. Unlikely/Less likely possibilites:
-MCV-Sell (currently no strategies are known that work this way)
-MCV was teleported to a new location with the chronoswap-ability (there are quite some players out there that actually choose that ability)
-MCV was packed up to move closer to water for building a harbour (no allied player ever needs a harbour so bad, that he would move the MCV just for that)

(Remember: I just observed 2 little details and was able to gain insight to the enemy's strategy. That are much more usable facts from little details than in any other strategy-game I know of.)

Example why scouting is important, the match between freezy and me:

I sold these airfields and I don't know if he saw that, but he kept building masses of IFVs, instead of teching up for Mirages to squeeze me. Something else I noticed was, that he didn't scout for my expansion points properly, and he had more than one chance to kill my stuff up there without losing much time and troops. He also missed to build up the expansion right next to his base. When I attacked his MCV with my vindicators, I saw where his MCV was moving to and I immediately knew where two of his expansions will be found at as soon as my taskforce was ready. Quite some time later my first wave of groundunits then attacked one of these locations which were totally unprepared. I found a MCV, one Airfield and a Refinery, all of them unarmed and ready for destruction. In panic he quickly tried to pull up a barracks and a tower and seemed surprised that I'm able to afford such an effective army, just because he stopped sending scouts to my base in lategame...