Ligasystem

[InsOp]

• Wenn 100 Spieler eine Division gefüllt haben, eröffnet Battle.net eine neue Division.
• Es gibt 6 bzw 7 verschiedene Ligen
• Wenn man unter den ersten 8 Spielern ist, bekommt man die chance in die nächst höhere Liga aufzusteigen
• Der Elowert verschiedener Ligen ist nicht vergleichbar
• Man bekommt als erstes Spieler der eigenen Division zugewiesen, wenn kein Spieler gefunden wird,
  wird ein Spieler dersselben Liga zu gewiesen, wenn das nicht passieren kann wird der nächst beste/schlechteste Spieler zugewiesen, aus jeder potentiellen division
• Es wird eine Pro league geben

Quelle:
http://www.fragster.de/kurzmeldung/...-funktioniert-die-ladder-in-sc2_sc2/comments/
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=100847

 

[Bandito]

Wie ist denn die Meinung bei den Beta Usern zu diesem Liga System ? Von den anfänglichen (?) Problemen beim Liga Aufstieg abgesehen.

Das ist ja aufjedenfall mal, für mich zumindest, total neues herangehen an der thematik Ladder und ich bin gespannt, wie es ausschaut, wenn zig tausende spielen.

 

[Nickoteen]

Richtig geil wär ein integriertes Pokal Turnier wie halt DFB Pokal. Weltweit in SC2 kriegt man dann an irgendeinen Tag eine Nachricht im Battle.net2 ob man an dem Turnier teilnehmen möchte und kann dann akzeptieren und dann wird man jede Woche ein match haben wenn man weiter kommt.

 

[zokker13]

Nice, ich muss aber sagen, dass ich schon seit einer Woche in den Top8 rumgammle -.-

 

[dezi]

Sowas ähnliches gibt es ja schon in WC3 mit den Tunieren. Jedoch laufen die da an eine Tag.

Zum System ansich. Bisl unschlüssig ist immer noch der Auf/Abstieg. Erstmal hat man seine Platzierungsspiele. Dazu soll es wohl bei 30, 100 und 200 Spielen je eine Switch geben, wenn man sich bedeutend besser/schlechter schlägt.

Insgesamt ist das System sehr gut. In der Beta ist es aber aktuell noch so eingestellt das es nicht groß auf die ELO achtet sondern einem versuchst möglichst schnell einen Gegner liefern. Je mehr Spieler und damit Divisionen es werden umso eher wird man aber immer gegen nahezu gleich gute/schlechte Spieler spielen. Das System lebt also von der Anzahl der Teilnehmer.

Ich finde es gut. Es muss dann nur eine Overall Top Liste her bzw. wird dies wohl dann die Pro League mit den besten 100

 

[TrUeTrAiN]

was ich genial finden würde wenn man in jeder liga auch eine eigene liga spielt also sowas wie 2tebundesliga(in dem fall platin) und halt extra dafür tuniere ect um auch den tunierspaß für die "lowen" geben zu können

 

[WimblGrmpf]

Das System is kacke, machen wir doch einfach ne UF Liga...

 

[zokker13]

Ich würde mal sagen, dass die meisten Turniere freie seien sollten d.h. dass nicht Blizzard diese hosten muss oder News geben muss.
Eine Plattform wie bei iccup.com wäre nice, wo man eigene Turniere hosten kann, um es aber Ranked zumachen, muss man die hosted- ranked games aktivieren.

TSL > all.

 

[CeLeRitY]

Ich seh´s so wie WimblGrmpf.

 

[OpTiK]

Und wie lange muss man Top 8 sein?
Ich idle auch schon eine Woche Top 8.

 

[Tiberiummistake]

Und wie schaut es aus mit aT ? (arrangiertes Team)
läuft das dort dann genauso?

 

[dezi]

Was willst Du in dem Zusammenhang wissen?

Einer läd ein und meldet beide zam an. Zusammen als Team belegt man auch n Ladderplatz.

 

[sixshot]

Top 8 has nothing to do with it imo.

I got promoted twice when i wasnt in the top 8... top 8 is mostly filled by players who belong in the leaque they are now (few exceptions here and there offcourse) but get highranked in there leaque due to game mass.

 

[Wilko]

Top 8 has nothing to do with it imo.

I got promoted twice when i wasnt in the top 8... top 8 is mostly filled by players who belong in the leaque they are now (few exceptions here and there offcourse) but get highranked in there leaque due to game mass.

That's wrong of course
Stop making excuses for being a noob
After so many games played there isn't something like "mass-gaming = high rank" (on a side-node: The System is even laid out to favor skilled players, who don't play many games due to Bonus Pool and stuff)
The players are up there because of their skill, so they deserve their rank indeed
This pathetic thinking can only come from a low-skilled player like you, who thinks he is good because he had success in a noob-game without any competition at all
This isn't a C&C game, so stop making such stupid comparisons

 

[sixshot]

For being a noob?... i dont care about sc2 i just do some fun games and its easy to see ret is naturally a better player then most of these game massers....
Also you did what 600+ games? And am sad sofronel is better then you on ~200 games yet your arrogant enuff to say he sucks when he asks you for games.
Whats wrong with you? Still angry you couldnt even be competitive on a simple game as cnc?

But good luck becoming ''pro'' on sc2 lol.

 

[Wilko]

What are you talking about?
What does this have to do with me?
I never mentioned anything of me and that i am pro in SC2?

you can only be highranked due to sheer amount of time spend..

omg, how did you find out this?
You must be a little Einstein, aren't cha?

P.S.: It's more than 2 weeks ago, when sofronel was asking me for games
I had around 200 matches and he had like 20
There was no sense in playing with him at this stage

 

[sixshot]

What are you talking about?
What does this have to do with me?
I never mentioned anything of me and that i am pro in SC2?

Well you try to attack me personally so you must have some hate... I didnt talk about cnc i didnt talk about you in my post untill you drag it to that level i was just talking about the players in lower leaques with 300/300 records cant tell me they are there pure by skill and not game mass... but i quess you feel offended by that cause you are a game masser aswell?

And the pro comment was about your TL sig ''on the lonely road to become a progamer''.

 

[Wilko]

Well you try to attack me personally so you must have some hate... I didnt talk about cnc i didnt talk about you in my post untill you drag it to that level i was just talking about the players in lower leaques with 300/300 records cant tell me they are there pure by skill and not game mass...

And about that pro thing i just saw your signature on TL hence that comment xD.

I hate the way you talk about skilled players and degrade them to noobs, who only got high rank because of mass-gaming, it's a wrong opinion anyway (we are talking about higher leagues of course)
This opinion is linked to your former gaming-career and the personality resulting of this, that's why i mentioned it

And yes, i am really trying to become very good in SC2, but as i said, i never mentioned me being pro in SC2

 

[sixshot]

So whitera>ret because he has higher elo points?....

Ladders are often who puts the most or enuff time into it... its not an indicator of who is best like you make it out to be... tournaments show the real winners like right now dimaga is obviously top.

 

[Wilko]

So whitera>ret because he has higher elo points?....

Ladders are often timespend and thats all... tournaments show the real winners like right now dimaga is obviously top.

At a certain amount of games played you can definately tell who's good and who is not due to ladder-points

Yes, ret isn't good at the moment
Even i did beat him twice recently
Of course, if he would play some more, he surely would be right at the top, but he doesn't
btw:
ret has only such a good ratio because IdrA is also playing on his account
Tournaments show the real winners, true
But isn't Dimaga at the very top in his division along with DeMuslim and both where in final last Zotac-Cup

P.S.: sry for offending you
but i rly disliked the way you were talking about some players you don't obviously know