FD-NL hacked.......
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1. All players in the FD-clans are different people (with a very few exceptions, for example the clanfounder)
2. I am sure that your suggestion was not the reason why FD-NL was reset (if so, why not reset all FD-clans ??)
3. The majority of the TS-players have more than one nickname.
4. A very large part of all the TS-clanplayers are members of more than one clan (so WW could reset the whole TS-community)
5. Let's wait for an official Westwood answer in stead of spreading ungrounded rumours.
2. I am sure that your suggestion was not the reason why FD-NL was reset (if so, why not reset all FD-clans ??)
3. The majority of the TS-players have more than one nickname.
4. A very large part of all the TS-clanplayers are members of more than one clan (so WW could reset the whole TS-community)
5. Let's wait for an official Westwood answer in stead of spreading ungrounded rumours.
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Yes, there were washgames 
But I wonder, why Westwood did not kick or ban the people that had the washes (or cheats, if they think it were cheats). Now a whole clan is disabled.
And is the problem solved by that ??
No, of course not, because:
1. NO player of FD-NL is banned;
2. H0lland, the clanfounder, can still make new clans (we have a temproary clan [FD-NL!] , but unfortunately you cannot look up the stats, due to some strange error in their ranking program).
3. All members of FD-NL can rejoin the new clan.
4. And if all can rejoin, also the "cheaters" can rejoin...
5. The clanfounder does not get information who the cheaters are (!!!!), and has no other option and allowing all back in a new clan.
So, banning the whole clan did not serve any purpose.
If Westwood really wanted to do something about cheaters, they should take action against the CHEATERS. But probably Westwood is not allowed to permanently ban people from their servers, because it is hard to prove. And if you cannot prove it, it is certainly against the american law to ban them permanently.
Besides of that: what did Westwood do to make cheating harder ? Release patches for the many loopholes? Release patches for the many bugs still in TS????
No of course not, that cost money for development and it will lower the profit. Rumours are that Electronic Arts (the owner of WW) has forbidden to make patcvhes for TS (sometime ago there was a nice publication on a website between a ts-player and Sunflight, the one and only sysop still left on TS, all the others were fired, that gave some grounds for my statement).
We'll see how the story continues.
I'll keep you informed, because it can also happen to YOUR clan !
But I wonder, why Westwood did not kick or ban the people that had the washes (or cheats, if they think it were cheats). Now a whole clan is disabled.
And is the problem solved by that ??
No, of course not, because:
1. NO player of FD-NL is banned;
2. H0lland, the clanfounder, can still make new clans (we have a temproary clan [FD-NL!] , but unfortunately you cannot look up the stats, due to some strange error in their ranking program).
3. All members of FD-NL can rejoin the new clan.
4. And if all can rejoin, also the "cheaters" can rejoin...
5. The clanfounder does not get information who the cheaters are (!!!!), and has no other option and allowing all back in a new clan.
So, banning the whole clan did not serve any purpose.
If Westwood really wanted to do something about cheaters, they should take action against the CHEATERS. But probably Westwood is not allowed to permanently ban people from their servers, because it is hard to prove. And if you cannot prove it, it is certainly against the american law to ban them permanently.
Besides of that: what did Westwood do to make cheating harder ? Release patches for the many loopholes? Release patches for the many bugs still in TS????
No of course not, that cost money for development and it will lower the profit. Rumours are that Electronic Arts (the owner of WW) has forbidden to make patcvhes for TS (sometime ago there was a nice publication on a website between a ts-player and Sunflight, the one and only sysop still left on TS, all the others were fired, that gave some grounds for my statement).
We'll see how the story continues.
I'll keep you informed, because it can also happen to YOUR clan !
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I still think its because of d0000d maybe u played them or a IP was similar (because ur from nl 2) but i hope they wont do something stupid like that again well it was good that they banned d000d they had 0 losses and only pushes but fd-nl had many losses and 0 pushes so wtf?
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das Hoota = spamer
oh btw
u kannst aus Sicherheitsgründen nur alle 60 Sekunden einen neuen Beitrag schreiben.
btwu kannst aus Sicherheitsgründen nur alle 60 Sekunden einen neuen Beitrag schreiben.
das Hoota = spamer
oh btw
u kannst aus Sicherheitsgründen nur alle 60 Sekunden einen neuen Beitrag schreiben.btw
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Because we have also a (private) history section on our homepage, I could lookup all the claninfo of September. FD-NL did NOT play any clangame vs. d000d.
It is possible of course that a d000d player was also in FD-NL.
But keep in mind that in H0lland we still have many dial-in lines to Internet Service Providers. Each time they start the dial-in connection, there is a new IP temporary created. Different people in the same area can have the same IP during the month.
Only if players have a fixed connection, like ADSL, cable, etc, the IP will stay the same (although there are tricks to chance that too).
It still puzzles me, why WW have to make it a secret why the clan is banned and not only the washers/cheaters.
Maybe there was an overreaction, they do not like to roll back.
But FD will be alive and come back.
It is possible of course that a d000d player was also in FD-NL.
But keep in mind that in H0lland we still have many dial-in lines to Internet Service Providers. Each time they start the dial-in connection, there is a new IP temporary created. Different people in the same area can have the same IP during the month.
Only if players have a fixed connection, like ADSL, cable, etc, the IP will stay the same (although there are tricks to chance that too).
It still puzzles me, why WW have to make it a secret why the clan is banned and not only the washers/cheaters.
Maybe there was an overreaction, they do not like to roll back.
But FD will be alive and come back.
good luck !